Re: Compile Time Garbage Collection impossible?

"A.L." <alewando@fala2005.com>
28 Sep 2006 22:48:56 -0400

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From: "A.L." <alewando@fala2005.com>
Newsgroups: comp.compilers
Date: 28 Sep 2006 22:48:56 -0400
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Keywords: GC
Posted-Date: 28 Sep 2006 22:48:56 EDT

On 22 Sep 2006 22:29:03 -0400, the.real.doctor.zoidberg@gmail.com
wrote:


>Why isn't Compile-Time-Garbage-Collection feasible? Consider a Java
>compiler which produces assembly code for a specific target instead of
>Java's bytecode cenario. The objective is to use Java without the need
>for a GC or VM.
>
>I'm asking why it isn't possible because otherwise there would be at
>least one compiler to use that technique, instead of having to run a
>GC in the VM.
>
>When a program is compiled, the compiler has to transverse all its
>code to ensure type safety (for safe languages), so what would be the
>problem in "freeing" objects after their scope, or even better, after
>the last reference in their scope?


Determining what objects could be deallocated during compilation is
equivalent to "halting problem" that is undecidable. i.e. there is
no algorithm possible that could do this for all possible programs.


A.L.

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